The Home Secretary, David Blunkett has announced a series of measures outlawing anti-social behaviour at a symposium in London on Tuesday.
Under Mr Blunkett's proposals, 10 "trail blaze" areas will be set up which will receive support from the government's anti-social behaviour unit as well as a series of "expert panels".
There will be tough new sanctions for nuisance neighbours including relocation, amended tenancy contracts as well as compulsory parenting classes.
Begging will become a recordable offence with offenders offered drug or alcohol treatment.
Do you agree with Mr Blunkett's proposals? What should be done to remedy anti-social behaviour?
This debate is now closed. Read a selection of your comments below.
The comments published here represent the balance of views received:
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Everyone wants things to change but they do not see themselves as part of the solution
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I am involved in the community in several ways and the biggest problem is to get people out of their houses and out in their locality to meet with and work together with fellow residents. It does seem that everyone wants things to change but they do not see themselves as part of the solution. The application of even a small amount of zero tolerance, starting in the home, and in the community will pay dividends and once its effects are obvious then people will want to be associated with success but getting started is the hardest part.
Denis Jones,
UK
I'm a shift worker and am tormented during the day, all day, every day, by my unemployed neighbour playing unbelievably loud music. I've tried everything to get something done, but the police and the council are apparently powerless to do anything until 10pm, which of course is when he turns it down. The whole street is bothered by this person and there is nothing anyone can do. The police should be able to come along and confiscate his sound system. As it is, he knows he can go on doing as he pleases.
Adrian, Brixton, UK
It's not just young people that are the problem. We have generally become a more selfish society with no sense of civic duty anymore. We are all out to safeguard our own interests and if that affects anyone else that's just tough. We need to rediscover our sense of community.
Jane, Wales, UK
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We should help those who can't help themselves
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I can't believe vagrancy is once again going to be a criminal offence. We should help those who can't help themselves. It is time to stop pointing fingers and start tackling the problems of housing, poverty and community which are the ROOT causes of ALL 'anti-social behaviour'.
Chris, UK
I Live in Warstock and for the past 18 months have had neighbours from hell noise till all hours garden full of rubbish etc etc, I fully support any action by the government to stamp out the problem but I think it may be to late because the young teenagers of today have been taught no respect and this comes from your parents and teachers.
Peter Mckeever,
United Kingdom
I agree with Mr. Blunkett's proposals entirely. In particular I would like to say that I am a strong advocate of child rights, and at the same time to point out rights come with responsibilities. Everyone should take responsibility for their conduct including anti social behaviour, and should be prepared to pay for their short comings. I think the new legislation should really empower parents to deal rigorously with their children's anti social behaviour.
Peter Chege, West Midlands, UK
We need police on the streets when lads are walking home drunk from the pubs and clubs. This is when most of the trouble happens. I would introduce a national 10pm curfew for all kids under 16 to deal with the younger trouble makers.
James, UK
Amend the law to re introduce physical (not capital) punishment. After all, nothing else has worked. Increase Police presence and take our country back off the menace that seems to be able to run it.
One word, hit it HARD.
Doug,
UK
Enough do-gooding and trying to find nice fluffy solutions to a deep rooted problem. These people are taking the mickey and the money from honest, hard working citizens who also have rights and deal with their own problems without resorting to anti-social behaviour. This minority is spoiling our society. It is time to treat them like they treat us.
Fraser, UK
I think we have reached such a stage that ANY solution is better than doing nothing at all even if it is slightly against civil liberties or human rights. Only those who have first-hand experience with estate yobs and junior thugs can understand why I am so harsh.
Mustafa Yorumcu,
UK/Turkey
By educating and socialising people when they are younger. Too many people amongst the working class in this country (and increasingly, the middle classes) are uncultured, selfish, poorly educated and have not benefited from civilised parenting. Unlike in many continental countries, very few young people have an appreciation of social responsibility or civilised behaviour. This can only be changed if young people are brought up better. English culture needs to change. These sorts of measures are purely populist measures and don't actually address the root of the problem.
Rustam Roy,
England (ex-India)
You instil social behaviour by giving people something to share in as an equal participant; how much of modern society is about sharing and how much is fragmented? THERE is the root problem and it can be seen so much in society that modern culture has become synonymous with it.
Lee, England
It starts in the home, one of parents' main responsibilities is to motivate their children in positive ways. Give them duties at home, give them responsibility from an early age. Give them something or someone to look after, to feel pride in and about - praise them. MAKE THEM FEEL VALID; don't just HAVE children - DO with them. Don't bring them into the world and then leave them to fend for themselves as soon as they can walk!
Jan,
Scotland
Prevention is always better than a cure, and this sounds like an attempt at the latter rather than the former. The former would include tackling poverty, so that people can earn a living wage on the minimum wage rather than being better off on benefits, changing the working culture so that parents have time and energy to spend with their children and trying taking our focus off consumerism as the be all and end all of life so that money doesn't appear to necessarily equal happiness.
Katherine, UK
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There is no substitute for a visible police presence
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The only way to deal with anti-social behaviour and many other law and order problems would be to take away 50% of the police forces cars and put the officers on the beat. There is no substitute for a visible police presence. Putting all our police in cars has made our police only a reactive force to events which have already happened. We need a deterrent to lawbreakers before the event. I have lived in the same area for 15 years and have never seen a policeman on foot.
Dudley, UK
I think that because of the way the justice system works, that criminals know that they are going to get away with something so it gives them an incentive to go and do it! For example, the farmer who shot a trespasser was jailed! That is not justice! Anyone who defends themselves against criminals becomes a criminal themselves!
Clare James, Wales
Parents (or guardians) of persistent under age offenders should go to prison as was done (apparently successfully)with the parents of young truants. Someone has to take responsibility for their actions.
Sammy Hinton,
Wales
Once again it's all about money. On my short journey to work from East to Central London I will see on average three to four sets of Police with radar guns trying to catch commuters doing 35 mph on urban dual carriageways, or roadblocks involving a dozen or more Police to see if your tax disc is out of date. Yet when there are running battles with youths in our street or people are mugged in broad daylight all you get is a small yellow sign saying "Incident..." The Police are more interested in soft easy targets than actually doing something to help improve peoples quality of life AND their image. Zero tolerance on motorists and apathy toward anti-social behaviour is about the worst PR the Police could hope for.
Jez, UK
Awareness programmes will be more pragmatic than legal measures in preventing anti-social behaviours. It stems from the law-breaking tendency seen especially in teenagers. Hence passing new laws won't help much.
Faisal, India
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Give us zero tolerance Mr Blunkett PLEASE
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Where is the evidence that crime is dropping? Over the past few months my son's Asian friend has been mugged on the way to work. My nephew who has learning difficulties was attacked on his way home from college and we can't leave him to get home on his own. Our cousin was mugged in a supermarket car park for his mobile phone and the most horrific attack which happened recently where a German young man walking home from work was attacked by a gang of Asian youths, kicked until he was unconscious, when he came round he found they'd carved names into his stomach with a penknife. Unable to come to terms with it, not knowing what else they might have done he's just tried to commit suicide. Give us zero tolerance Mr Blunkett PLEASE.
Heather, UK
In my opinion, prevention is always better than a cure. Prevention may come from an increased police presence on the streets and free or subsidised activities which would prevent boredom which leads to youth crime, especially during the school holidays.
Peter,
UK
Bring back the stocks! :-) I'd love to go down to the town centre of a Saturday afternoon and throw my household waste at a selection of yobs! They should be made to go in the stocks in just their pants and socks, embarrass them out of crime, make them look really small in front of their friends! To me, this is tackling anti-social behaviour head on! Plus it would be a fun way for the community to get their own back! :-)
Ady B, UK
I think that anti-social behaviour has become an issue that needs to be tackled head on and for once I agree with the prime minister that agencies around the UK should use the new powers to prosecute those that cause this problem to people going about their normal business.
Bipin Joshi, UK
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Anti-social behaviour begins at home
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Anti-social behaviour begins at home. If parents are anti-social, then children will copy. I remember teaching my three year old to pick up discarded sweetie papers and put them in her pocket to take them home. I spend much time picking up discarded litter from the pavement near my home. I have not had to suffer from nuisance neighbours but feel that a good community spirit is all important and that means everybody pulling together for the good of others.
Ms SD, UK
Quite simply. Zero tolerance! We have the laws currently but they are not enforced. Law abiding citizens do not need to be afraid of Zero tolerance, only the law breakers.
Deborah,
UK
I lived next to a sociopath who played loud music all the time. One evening he went out leaving his music on. I switched his mains off at the outside meter, but relented and switched it back on. The music came back on, but got faster and faster as his cassette tape got chewed up before finally stopping. I had to laugh!
Lawrence Brown, Sheffield, UK
Saying that this is down to boredom is completely untrue, as these "yobs" will commit vandalism no matter what facilities are provided. Youths don't see clubs, activities, and other facilities as "cool", but instead prefer to get on the wrong side of the law. We need to reinstall discipline in these youths, and make them understand that this kind of behaviour will not be tolerated. Jail doesn't help, because they also see it as being "cool" and something to brag to friends about it. I feel that the only way around this nuisance, is to be firm on the perpetrators. Make them pay for the damage they cause. Make them repair the damage they cause.
Andy B, Leeds, UK
Mr Smith's story is very nice but I have to say it really annoys me to hear everyone saying that these acts are caused by boredom as if that's supposed to justify it. It's not long since I was a bored 16-year-old and I didn't have a youth club to go to, and I couldn't afford to do much else, but I have never vandalised or stolen anything. People don't just smash windows and graffiti because they can't think of anything else to do, it's because they don't have enough respect for other people and their property.
Jenni, UK
It is sheer boredom which results in these mindless acts of vandalism - I know I have been there myself. Fortunately for me back then, the local council pioneered a community service project aimed placing offenders in community working schemes. Cleaning up the streets, removing graffiti, and for me gardening for the aged. Unfortunately this scheme was axed, in a cost cutting exercise. But this inclusion in the community made me realise I was part of it, and thanks to this project I have a very nice gardening business.
Mr Smith, Leeds, Yorkshire
We need to reinstall a sense of community responsibility. Perhaps one way to do this is to reinstate national service. If this is done, it should follow the German model, where people have the choice to join the armed forces or a social service. We need to realise that if we have a right to enjoy a civilised, democratic society, we need to take an active part.
Os, Bristol, UK
I agree with other comments on this subject, that it only tackles council estate tenants. I live in a street where there are a high proportion of rented properties and myself and other permanent residents have suffered anti-social behaviour such as all-night parties, theft, rubbish dumping etc from all kinds of people, not just young "thugs". Not all young people are bad, neither are all adults good - we need to tackle the problem across the board and not just the easy option of council estates!
Louix, UK
I don't think Mr Blunkett has a clue what he is talking about. Alienating people from the community is not the answer. These people are not yobs or thugs, they are children, and they need somewhere to play and something to do.
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Ordinary, honest people need to feel that they have the power to do something about bad behaviour
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Somehow Mr Blunkett, ordinary, honest people need to feel that they have the power to do something about bad behaviour without fear of prosecution themselves. Rowdy teenagers do not spring from the womb fully formed but learn as small children that neighbours and police alike are not allowed to reprimand them.
Don't just strengthen the powers of the police Mr Blunkett. Give decent people the confidence that the law is on their side rather than the criminals'.
Lorraine, UK
I used to be sympathetic to beggars in the street near my place of work. That is, until I saw one 'tramp' packing up for the day, walking round the corner and then getting into his car (after taking off his work clothes) and driving away.
Amazing but true - a sad state of affairs in our capital city.
John, London, UK
After having cars vandalised, windows broken and refuse bins stolen and burnt, our "community police" officers confirmed there would be an "increased police presence" on our estate.
The following morning, from 7:30 until 9:30, four police officers armed with speed guns targeted passing motorists and carried out spot-checks on residents' cars.
Increased police presence? Thank you Mr Blunkett.
Paul,
England
Anti Social behaviour is the direct result of taking the old ideas of self discipline and promoting personal standards out of our education system. Until it becomes "uncool" to get drunk out of ones mind on a Saturday night, and until persons like local radio disc jockeys stop talking about how much they drank the night before I fear Mr. Blunkett's good intentions will be in vain.
What these anti social types need is not ASBO's and the like but a challenge. They need to find their stimulation not in drinking to excess or smashing windows, but in things that bring about real satisfaction. Bring a real sense of adventure into these people's lives and I know which way they turn. It is not just down to the Government either, its down to every school teacher, every priest, every social worker, every parent, every police officer and every member of society to help the young.
Edward Hollinshead, UK
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Yobbish behaviour encountered after people have had a night out is certainly more common across all sectors of society
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Blunkett seems to be missing the point. Although some areas suffer from drug problems etc far more than others, it seems that targeting nuisance neighbours with amended tenancy contracts points the finger at certain sectors of society. My experience is that anyone from students to professionals is behaving in anti-social ways more than beggars and council estate residents. Living in a city centre, the vomit, faeces, urine and yobbish behaviour encountered after people have had a night out is certainly more common across all sectors of society not just one.
Tony, UK
Trail Blaze areas and Expert Panels are not necessary. What is required? Common sense use of existing law. I was deliberately knocked down by a car driven by drunken youngsters. I was able to give the police the make model and registration number but no prosecution resulted. The incident was recorded as a hit and run accident and only reclassified as assault after six months of protest including an MP letter. In contrast I see friends prosecuted for minor road traffic offences - why? Because their documentation is up to date with DVLA and they are easily traced.
Richard Ash, England
I recently had to move out of a rented flat because of threats from a neighbour who had been evicted by the council because of nuisance behaviour. Prior to that I and other neighbours had to endure 9 months of hell from this man who was a drunk and a thug. If only something had been done sooner I might still be living happily in my flat and not in a cramped room back at my parents, still trying to get over the stress it all caused.
Sarah, UK
These are all signs of a decedent and immoral society that is decline. This will be the first generation that is less educated than the previous. The media have been chipping away at moral of youngsters and now have to do something to put something into society, not destroy it. The glorification of mob culture and mindless TV programs is having its effect. The do gooder lobby have had their day and failed. It is now the time for tougher measures and the reaffirmation that rights go hand in hand with duties. If you do not perform your duties to society, then some, or all of your rights will be removed. This is the basis of democracy. No more sympathy for the Devil.
John K, UK
Anti social behaviour learning and patterning starts in the home. We now have a couple generations, of kids who have grown up under the welfare umbrella.
These kids have watched their parents gain money without earning it or putting something back into the community that's paying them. Add to that the fact that idiotic data protection laws impede police investigations, add the fact that young criminals have legislated protections - no Law can unravel this current mess. My husband is a Community Support Officer and he has been told that even if a young offender assaults him, he can deflect the punch, but not hit him back. Much of this problem legislation comes out of Westminster from people who have no idea what the reality is on the street.
Patricia van der Veer, Merseyside U.K.
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Why are more measures going to work when the ones in at the moment don't do any good
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Anti-social laws have been in force for a few years now, but they don't seem to work even now. I live next door to a notorious family with 5 children who each day cause unbelievable trouble for the surrounding neighbours. We are even taking the council to court for not doing anything. The house has been raided by armed police 7 times for drugs and yet they are still allowed to live there. Why are more measures going to work when the ones in at the moment don't do any good.
AJ, UK
Blunkett supposed war on anti-social behaviour and championing of sustainable communities is a farce. His government constantly demonises young people, criticises those out of work or on benefits, starves councils of money to maintain housing or support communities and then blames his victims when things go wrong! Today's announcement is nothing more than a re-launch of existing proposals, tarted up with a few targets. I would have thought the lessons from the NHS would have shown him targets are often missed and are rarely useful in any meaningful way.
Simon, Wales
We are now reaping the rewards from years and years of turning a blind eye to anti-social behaviour by the anti-social types in our society to such an extent that we now class it as normal to see burnt out cars, vandalism and yobishness in our communities. I'm afraid as usual the politicians have left it far too late to act. Too many times we've heard the same politicians making excuses for these people by saying it iis caused by unemployment or social deprivation, while we in the real world know it is caused by plain old fashioned stupidity by the perpetrators!
Ron Shilton, UK
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Let's give these solutions a chance
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They sound like great ideas but I think the problem with this country is that people love to complain and when the government comes up with ideas that may solve these problems people just knock the politicians. We now have more police than ever and for the last six years crime has been falling (not that you would know this reading newspapers and listening to the BBC). Let's give these solutions a chance, the alternative is to listen to the Conservatives and do nothing.
Gary Gatter, UK
Another poorly thought out policy designed to attract headlines. What will happen to the children of a so-called nuisance neighbour who is forced to move home? Will they have to re-locate schools bringing further disruption? Presumably this policy only applies to individuals living in council rented accommodation, therefore of no hope to those living in their own homes.
Bob Stephens, England
Whether the government's chosen course of action is being deemed by the public as too stringent for today's youths, it is however highlighting that there is a problem and in my opinion, it stems from the youths knowing they have rights. I'm only 26 and although I came from a rough area we would never talk back to policeman or even adults for that matter. Something has definitely changed in the past 10 years.
Peterborough Paul, UK
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A symptom of a dysfunctional society
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I see anti-social behaviour as a symptom of a dysfunctional society. We now seem to be in a situation where both parents or a lone parent either have to work long hours or the family has to exist on benefits. This often means children aren't being brought up at all which can result in such things as anti-social behaviour, obesity, drinking, drugs etc.
Helen C, UK
The most important thing is to engage with your neighbours, especially the young. Talk to them, help them, say "hello" when passing. In this way they feel part of the community instead of disconnected.
Simon, England
To Simon,England.
I lived next door to a twenty two year old lad who lived with his mother. He played music all day AND night constantly. At the time I had one child aged 2 years. I tried to reason with my neighbour, but when that didn't work I called the Police and the Council. Nothing worked. All the Police could do was to ask him to turn the music down. When my partner was pregnant with our second child, the music caused my partner so much distress that I took the matter into my own hands. Suddenly I am the one facing Police Officers and anwering for my actions. We have since moved. The Government need to give Police and Councils more power to stop such behaviour. It wrecks lives. My son is now aged four and he still gets upset at loud music. Some people you just can't reason with.
Paul, UK
Putting police back on the beat won't solve anything if there aren't tougher laws to punish anti-social behaviour. If only the government and police would use a zero tolerance policy as they are happy to do with driving offence things might improve.
Andy Bennett,
UK
Surely a decent home life is the place to start, then backed up by police enforcement. I grew up on council estates in the North East, with high unemployment and very little hope. But there is no way my parents would have stood for anti-social behaviour from me. So-called 'boredom' and lack of money is no excuse for bad behaviour and it's about time we made that clear to our young people.
Bev, UK
It's a pity they haven't chosen Manchester as a target. I'm fed up to the back teeth of heroin addicts and drunks intimidating people outside every off licence and bank.
Mark, England
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I welcome any move to try and get this sorted
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Thank goodness Leeds has been chosen for a clamp down on begging. I work in this city and you run the gauntlet of this problem everywhere you go here - in the shopping areas and the bus/train station. My female friends are frightened of using the bus station after 7 at night as the begging is aggressive to say the least. It is more than merely 'annoying' - it scares us to be confronted by these people and then be sworn at and abused if we don't hand money over. I welcome any move to try and get this sorted.
Penny, UK
Just another case of "All talk - no action". A good idea but let's face reality, this country is really far too messed up, thanks to this government, to ever be able to do anything satisfying with this issue. Kids have no fear of the police as the police can't do anything to them anyway. The rise of gangsta culture amongst youths is only going to be solved by stopping big media companies manipulating kids.
Laurie Griffiths, England
My wife comes from the Czech Republic where political correctness has a different meaning. Despite the shortcomings of post-communist society, young people over there are brought up firmly but fairly. The result is that you can actually survive a journey with them on buses at school times!
Patrick V. Staton,
Guildford, UK
I notice the comments of Patrick from Guildford and I can say that as an Italian the same can be said about Italian kids. Restoring family and society values is much harder work than arresting or punishing these kids and most importantly would have an effect on the new generations. Punishment won't work but Mr Blunkett is looking for votes not for a solution.
Frank ,
UK/Italy
I really don't understand how making begging a recordable offence is anything but a vote-winner. Most people who beg are not going to be put off by the possibility of getting a criminal record - they beg because they feel they have little choice. People who have a criminal record as a result of begging will be less likely to get into decent and decently paid work and become self-supporting, so it's in no way a long term solution - in fact it will make it harder for people forced to beg to change their own lives.
It's not winning my vote.
Clare Cochrane,
UK
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Real action needs to be taken
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Unfortunately these measures are likely to be as "toothless" as all other recent proposals on neighbours from hell and other social maladies. Real action needs to be taken, not token gestures of parenting classes or the withdrawal of the right to buy.
Mike, England
I agree with the concept of Mr Blunkett's proposal but I will be very surprised to see any success come from it. My neighbourhood is already being terrorised by the firework brigade. Every night since 8th October we have had fireworks and bangers going off until 11.30pm and no-one seems to care that people have children getting up for school the next day, or getting up for work or for older people and animals who might be scared of the noise. Compulsory parenting classes? I hope he's got plans for some 'compulsory learn to be a decent human being' classes lined up too!
Kiltie, Staffs
The main thrust of this policy seems to be against anti-social behaviour by the poor. At least they have an excuse for behaving irresponsibly. What about the much more damaging and endemic anti-social behaviour of the chattering classes? We could start with the wilful destruction of rural communities by commuters. Or how about inflation of the housing market by those owning more than one home? The myopic selfishness of two and three car households ......
Andrew, UK
It's all well and good if these neighbours are council tenants. What can you do if they own their house and are violent and abusive? We have had to call the police on a number of occasions and a neighbour has actually attacked me and left my face badly bruised but the police will do very little about it.
Julie, England
From dusk last night, my street and the surrounding area was terrorised by gangs of youths throwing fireworks at each other, shouting and laughing. Teenage hi-jinks? Not according to my 18-month-old daughter, who was scared out of her wits and refused to go to sleep, murmuring 'bang' for hours after the youths had moved on. Anti-social behaviour will not stop until selfish, unconcerned parents take some responsibility for the actions of their children, but there's not much sign of that happening on the East London council estate where I live.
Ben Harding,
UK
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How about taking the radical step of putting some bobbies back on the beat?
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We used to have a very effective deterrent for anti-social behaviour and street crime. It was called a police force. Unfortunately, it was long ago replaced by cameras on sticks, which do nothing to PREVENT crime, only improve conviction rates (and therefore make politicians look good). How about taking the radical step of putting some bobbies back on the beat?
Jeremy, England
Responsibility comes from pride, a feeling of belonging and aspirations to improve. Most people guilty of anti-social behaviour cannot be punished into submission, but they probably would behave better if they believed they had a worthwhile future.
Andy Millward, UK
Emotional isolation is a big cause of anti-social behaviour. People who have never been shown respect and affection generally do not understand those concepts. We as individuals can make a big difference by going the extra mile when interacting with those around us, especially those who might be disadvantaged and isolated.
Ralph D, Oldham, UK
As annoying as it can be, I wouldn't class begging as anti-social. The reason why these people are begging in the first place is what needs to be addressed.
Relocation is merely shifting the problem into someone else's back garden and the idea of parenting classes is ludicrous to say the least.
Bang them up in an isolated cell for 23 hours a day for a month, with no TV, radio or communication with the outside world and see if the penny starts to drop then!
Oh, sorry. Is that an infringement on their human rights? TOUGH!!!!!!!!
Jim Rogerson, Scotland
These proposals, welcome as they are, only deal with the symptom not the cause. The real solution is to fix the problem when they are young - in schools and homes.
The media and so-called celebrities can also do their part by not perpetuating the image that being a lout or stupid is somehow cool - as most of the current crop of reality TV programmes seem to show.
John, UK
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Community service seems the most obvious thing for consistent offenders
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The biggest problem is that these offenders usually get away scot free. Community service seems the most obvious thing for consistent offenders. It appears that councils cannot afford to cut grass, sweep leaves and clear litter so why not get these yobs to do it for free. Get them to put something back into the community.
Ian,
UK
I fear that these new proposals will never be used. Councils have had the powers to restrict troublemakers' activities at night for years but these are rarely used. More police, on foot and not bound down by red-tape is the answer.
Pepe, UK
A streamlined, faster and cheaper justice system with less red tape and less time-wasting tactics allowed would be a start. The police should also be freed from the constraints of paperwork and actually get out there and do their job. That would be a good start.
Toby, Spain
I'll believe it when I see it! Yobs seem to have more rights then their victims do! This gimmick won't work, only a change in the law governing young thugs will really have an effect.
Andrew Magowan, Northern Ireland
These are all excellent proposals that I really hope will make a difference, but they are unfortunately just a cure rather than prevention. Until we reinstate much needed discipline in schools and homes as kids are growing up, we will just keep producing generations of anti-social, selfish people with no respect for their fellow citizens.
Reg Pither, England